{"id":4881,"date":"2024-09-06T16:23:55","date_gmt":"2024-09-06T21:23:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/?p=4881"},"modified":"2024-09-06T16:23:55","modified_gmt":"2024-09-06T21:23:55","slug":"almagest-book-xi-saturns-periodic-motion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2024\/09\/almagest-book-xi-saturns-periodic-motion\/","title":{"rendered":"Almagest Book XI: Saturn’s Periodic Motion"},"content":{"rendered":"

Ptolemy now walks us through his supposed method for determining the periodic motions of Saturn. I say “supposed” because, again, Ptolemy’s final result doesn’t quite match what he tells us here. But we’ll follow along anyway.<\/p>\n

As usual, he begins with an observation from the Babylonian astronomers:<\/p>\n

[I]n the $82^{nd}$ year in the Chaldaen calendar, Xanthikos $5,$ in the evening, the planet Saturn was $2$ digits [i.e., $0;10\u00ba$] below [the star on] the southern shoulder of Virgo<\/span>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span>. Now, that moment is in the $519^{th}$ year from Nabonassar, Tybi [V] $14$ in the Egyptian calendar [$228$ BCE, March $1$], evening, at which time we found the longitude of the mean sun as $6;10\u00ba$ into Pisces.<\/p>\n

But the fixed star on the southern shoulder of Virgo had a longitude at the time of our observation of $13 \\frac{1}{16}\u00ba$ into Virgo; Thus, at the moment of the observation in question, since to the intervening $366$ years corresponds to a motion of the fixed stars of about $3 \\frac{2}{3}\u00ba,$ its longitude was, obviously, $9 \\frac{1}{2}\u00ba$ into Virgo. And the planet Saturn had the same longitude, since it was $2$ digits to the south of the fixed star.<\/p>\n

By the same argument, since we showed that, in our time, its apogee was at $23\u00ba$ into Virgo, at the observation in question, it must have had a longitude of $19 \\frac{1}{3}\u00ba$ into Virgo.<\/p>\n

From this, we conclude that, at the above moment, the apparent distance of the planet from the them apogee, was $290;10\u00ba$ of the ecliptic, while the mean sun was $106;50\u00ba$ from the same apogee.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Using this information, we’ll produce a new diagram<\/span>2<\/sup><\/a><\/span>:<\/p>\n

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As usual, we have $\\overline{AG}$ as our line of apsides on which sit, $Z,$ $D,$ and $E$ which are the centers of mean motion, mean distance, and the center of the ecliptic respectively.<\/p>\n

Point $L$ is the mean sun and is connected to $E$. The epicycle’s center is $B$ and the planet is at $\\Theta.$<\/p>\n

We then produce $\\overline{ZB},$ extending it to the opposite side of the epicycle at $H$. We’ll aso draw $\\overline{DB}$. We then draw $\\overline{E \\Theta}$ extending it until it meets a perpendicular dropped from $B$. A parallel line is extended from $D$ until it meets the same perpendicular from $B$ at $X.$ A perpendicular is also dropped from $D$ onto this line which would be parallel to $\\overline{XB}.$<\/p>\n

Lastly, we draw $\\overline{B \\Theta}$ which is parallel to $\\overline{EM}$ since the planet’s position about the epicycle is always the same as the angle produced for the mean sun from the observer.<\/p>\n

Ptolemy told us above that Saturn was observed $290;10\u00ba$ after the apogee, which means that $\\angle AE \\Theta = 69;50\u00ba$<\/span>3<\/sup><\/a><\/span>. Similarly, we saw that the sun was $106;50\u00ba$ after the apogee, which is $\\angle AEL$.<\/p>\n

We can add these two angles together to determine $\\angle \\Theta EL = 176;40\u00ba.$ This is the same angle as $\\angle E \\Theta B$. This is easy to see if you imagine extending $\\overline{LE}$ and $\\overline{B \\Theta}$. These two lines are parallel and thus, $\\overline{E \\Theta}$ would cross both making $\\angle \\Theta EL$ and $\\angle E \\Theta B$ alternate angles.<\/p>\n

Next, we can look at this angle’s supplement along $\\overline{EN}$ which is $\\angle B \\Theta N = 3;20\u00ba.$<\/p>\n

We’ll now create a demi-degrees circle about $\\triangle B \\Theta N$ in which its hypotenuse, $\\overline{\\Theta B} = 120^p.$ In it, $arc \\; BN = 6;40\u00ba$ and its corresponding chord, $\\overline{BN} = 6;59^p$ although Ptolemy rounds down to $6;58^p.$<\/p>\n

This can be converted to the context in which the diameters of the eccentre is $120^p$ since we know the radius of the epicycle in that context:<\/p>\n

$$\\frac{6;30^p}{120^p} = \\frac{\\overline{BN}}{6;58^p}$$<\/p>\n

$$\\overline{BN} = 0;23^p.$$<\/p>\n

Now, let’s take a look at $\\triangle EDM$. In it, we know that $\\angle DEM = 69;50\u00ba$ as this is the same angle as $\\angle AE \\Theta$. Since $\\angle EMD$ is a right angle, the remaining angle $\\angle EDM = 20;10\u00ba.$<\/p>\n

We’ll put that on the shelf for a bit and now create a demi-degrees circle about that triangle in which the hypotenuse, $\\overline{ED} = 120^p.$ In that context, $arc \\; DM = 139;40\u00ba$ and the corresponding chord, $\\overline{DM} = 112;39^p.$<\/p>\n

We can convert that back into our context in which the diameters of the eccentres is $120^p$ since we know the distance between the centers:<\/p>\n

$$\\frac{3;25^p}{120^p} = \\frac{\\overline{DM}}{112;39^p}$$<\/p>\n

$$\\overline{DM} = 3;12^p.$$<\/p>\n

Now, because $DMNX$ is a parallelogram, this is the same length as $\\overline{XN}.$ So we can add this onto $\\overline{BN}$ to determine $\\overline{BX} = 3;35^p.$<\/p>\n

We’ll now create a demi-degrees context around $\\triangle BDX$ in which its hypotenuse, $\\overline{DB} = 120^p.$ In our previous context, this was a radius, so hard a measure of $60^p$ which we can use to convert:<\/p>\n

$$\\frac{120^p}{60^p} = \\frac{\\overline{BX}}{3;35^p}$$<\/p>\n

$$\\overline{BX} = 7;10^p.$$<\/p>\n

The corresponding arc, $arc \\; BX = 6;51\u00ba$ although Ptolemy finds $6;52\u00ba.$ Thus, the angle this arc subtends on the opposite side of the demi-degrees circle is $\\angle BDX = 3;26\u00ba.$<\/p>\n

Next, $\\angle XDM$ is a right triangle, so if we subtract $\\angle BDX$ out of it, we find that $\\angle BDM = 86;34.$<\/p>\n

To this, we can add $\\angle EDM$ to find that $\\angle BDE = 106;44\u00ba.$<\/p>\n

This is the supplement to $\\angle BDA$ so $\\angle BDA = 73;16\u00ba.$<\/p>\n

We’ll now look at $\\triangle DZK$ which contains this angle, creating a demi-degrees circle about it in which the hypotenuse, $\\overline{DZ} = 120^p.$ In in, $arc \\; ZK = 146;32\u00ba$ and the supplement, $arc \\; DK = 33;28\u00ba.$ The\u00a0corresponding chords are $\\overline{ZK} = 114;55^p$ and $\\overline{DK} = 34;33^p.$<\/p>\n

We convert this back into our context in which the diameter of the eccentres is $120^p$:<\/p>\n

$$\\frac{3;25^p}{120^p} = \\frac{\\overline{ZK}}{114;55^p}$$<\/p>\n

$$\\overline{ZK} = 3;16^p$$<\/p>\n

for which Ptolemy rounds up to $3;17^p.$ Additionally,<\/p>\n

$$\\frac{3;25^p}{120^p} = \\frac{\\overline{DK}}{34;33^p}$$<\/p>\n

$$\\overline{DK} = 0;59^p.$$<\/p>\n

We can then subtract this off of $\\overline{DB}$ to determine that $\\overline{KB} = 59;01^p.$ This is one of the sides of $\\triangle ZKB$ in which we also know $\\overline{ZK} = 3;16^p$ in this context. Thus, we can use the Pythagorean theorem to determine:<\/p>\n

$$\\overline{ZB} = 59;06^p.$$<\/p>\n

We’ll now create a demi-degrees circle about this triangle in which the hypotenuse, $\\overline{ZB} = 120^p$:<\/p>\n

$$\\frac{120^p}{59;06^p} = \\frac{\\overline{ZK}}{3;17^p}$$<\/p>\n

$$\\overline{ZK} = 6;40^p.$$<\/p>\n

We can then find the corresponding arc, $arc \\; ZK = 6;22\u00ba.$ Thus, the angle this arc subtends on the opposite side of the demi-degrees circle, $\\angle ZBK = 3;11\u00ba.$<\/p>\n

We can add this to $\\angle ADB,$ which we previously found to be $73;16\u00ba,$ to determine $\\angle AZB = 76;27\u00ba.$<\/p>\n

Therefore, at the moment of the above observation, Saturn’s distance from the apogee in mean longitudinal motion was $283;33\u00ba,$ i.e., it’s [mean] longitude was $2;53\u00ba$ into Virgo.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This was arrived at from the position of apogee being $19;20\u00ba$ into Scorpio plus the $283;33\u00ba$ minus the full revolution.<\/p>\n

And since the mean sun’s position is given as $106;50\u00ba,$ if we add the $360\u00ba$ of one revolution to the latter, and from the resulting $466;50\u00ba$ subtract the $283;33\u00ba$ of the longitude [from apogee], we get, for the anomaly at that moment, $183;17\u00ba$ from the apogee of the epicycle.<\/p>\n

So, since we have shown that, at the moment of the above observation, which is the $519^{th}$ year from Nabonassar, Tybi [V] $14,$ in the evening, [Saturn] was $183;17\u00ba$ [in anomaly] from the apogee of the epicycle and, at the moment of the third opposition, which was in the $883^{rd}$ year from Nabonassar, Mesore [XII] $24$, noon, it was $174;44\u00ba,$ it is clear that in the interval between the observations, which comprises $364$ Egyptian years and $219 \\frac{3}{4}$ days, the planet Saturn had moved $351;27\u00ba$ (beyond $351$ complete revolutions in anomaly).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

That total motion is $126,711;27\u00ba$ over $133,079;45$ days. Dividing that out, I find a mean motion of $0;57,07,43,41,44,18^{\u00ba}{day}.$<\/p>\n

As with the previous planets, this matches what Ptolemy has in the mean motion tables for the first four sexagesimal places, but diverges for the remaining two. And as with before, I point readers to his Appendix C for further reading.<\/p>\n

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