{"id":4809,"date":"2024-08-21T16:11:57","date_gmt":"2024-08-21T21:11:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/?p=4809"},"modified":"2024-08-21T16:11:57","modified_gmt":"2024-08-21T21:11:57","slug":"almagest-book-xi-determining-the-size-of-jupiters-epicycle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2024\/08\/almagest-book-xi-determining-the-size-of-jupiters-epicycle\/","title":{"rendered":"Almagest Book XI: Determining the Size of Jupiter&#8217;s Epicycle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Next, we&#8217;ll determine the size of Jupiter&#8217;s epicycle. To do so, we&#8217;ll use another observation that Ptolemy has made.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The observation was on<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>the second year of Antoninus, Mesore [XII], $26\/27$ in the Egyptian calendar [$139$ CE, July $10\/11$], before sunrise, i.e., about $5$ equinoctial hours after midnight (for the mean longitude of the sun was $16;11\u00ba$ into Aries, and the second degree of Aries [i.e., $1-2\u00ba$ of Aries] was culminating according to the astrolabe). At that moment, Jupiter, when sighted with respect to the bright star in the Hyades<span id='easy-footnote-1-4809' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2024\/08\/almagest-book-xi-determining-the-size-of-jupiters-epicycle\/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-4809' title='\u03b1 Tau.'><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span>, was seen to have a longitude of $15 \\frac{3}{4}\u00ba$ into Gemini.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That gives the apparent position with respect to \u03b1 Tau.<\/p>\n<p>Next, Ptolemy gives us the calculated position of the moon because, he says, Jupiter<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>had the same apparent longitude as the center of the moon, which lay to the south of it.<\/p>\n<p>For that moment<span id='easy-footnote-2-4809' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2024\/08\/almagest-book-xi-determining-the-size-of-jupiters-epicycle\/#easy-footnote-bottom-2-4809' title='Toomer notes that this calculation looks to have been computed, not for $5$ am as Ptolemy states, but for $4:42$ am, thus including the equation of time with respect to the epoch of era Nobonassar.'><sup>2<\/sup><\/a><\/span> we find, by means of the calculations [previously] explained:<\/p>\n<p>Moon&#8217;s mean longitude: $9;00\u00ba$ into Gemini<br \/>\nMoon&#8217;s [mean] anomaly counted from the epicycle apogee: $272;05\u00ba$<\/p>\n<p>Hence its true position: $14;50\u00ba$ into Gemini<br \/>\nand its apparent position at Alexandria: $15;45\u00ba$ into Gemini.<\/p>\n<p>Thus, from these considerations too, Jupiter&#8217;s longitude was $15 \\frac{3}{4}\u00ba$ into Gemini.<\/p>\n<p>Ptolemy then gives the time interval from the third opposition to the above observation as $1$ Egyptian year and $276$ days.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This allows him to calculate the change in the longitude and anomaly as:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>in longitude: $53;17\u00ba$<br \/>\nand in anomaly: $218;31\u00ba.$<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My calculations from the planetary mean motions table agrees with this.<\/p>\n<p>We then add these increases over this interval to the positions stated in the <a href=\"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2024\/08\/almagest-book-xi-verification-of-jupiter-derivations\/\">last post<\/a>. Thus, we find the positions at the time of this observation were:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>in longitude: $263;53\u00ba$ from the apogee<br \/>\nand in anomaly: $41;18\u00ba$ from the apogee of the epicycle<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We now produce a diagram of this configuration:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4810\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?resize=287%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"287\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?resize=287%2C300&amp;ssl=1 287w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?resize=980%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 980w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?resize=768%2C802&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?resize=1470%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1470w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?resize=1960%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1960w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?w=1050&amp;ssl=1 1050w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/AlmagestFig-11.10.jpg?w=1575&amp;ssl=1 1575w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 287px) 100vw, 287px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Quickly explaining this diagram, we have $\\overline{AG}$ as the line of apsides. Then points $Z$, $D$, and $E$ are the center of mean motion, mean distance, and the observer, respectively.<\/p>\n<p>All three of these are then connected to $B$, the center of the epicycle with $\\overline{ZB}$ being extended to the far side of the epicycle at $H$, and $\\overline{EB}$ extended to the far side at $\\Theta$.<\/p>\n<p>Jupiter will be at point $K$ and we&#8217;ll create $\\overline{EK}$ onto which we&#8217;ll drop a perpendicular from $B$ at $N$.<\/p>\n<p>Perpendiculars are also dropped from $D$ and $E$ onto $\\overline{ZH}$ at $M$ and $L$ respectively.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Then, since the mean position in longitude from the apogee of the eccentre is $263;53\u00ba$, $\\angle GBZ = 83;53\u00ba$.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We can then look at $\\triangle DZM$ which contains this angle and create a demi-degrees context about it in which the hypotenuse, $\\overline{DZ} = 150^p.$ In that context, $arc \\; DM = 167;46\u00ba$ and its supplement, $arc \\; ZM = 12;14\u00ba$.<\/p>\n<p>We can then find the corresponding chords:\u00a0$\\overline{DM} = 119;19^p$ and $\\overline{ZM} = 12;47^p.$<\/p>\n<p>This, then, gets converted to the context in which the diameters of the eccentres is $120^p$:<\/p>\n<p>$$\\frac{2;45^p}{120^p} = \\frac{\\overline{DM}}{119;19^p}$$<\/p>\n<p>$$\\overline{DM} = 2;44^p$$<\/p>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<p>$$\\frac{2;45^p}{120^p} = \\frac{\\overline{ZM}}{12;47^p}$$<\/p>\n<p>$$\\overline{ZM} = 0;18^p.$$<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll now focus on $\\triangle DMB$ in which we know two sides. Thus, we can find the third side using the Pythagorean theorem:<\/p>\n<p>$$\\overline{MB} = \\sqrt{60^2 &#8211; 2;55^2} = 59;56^p.$$<\/p>\n<p>Then, we can subtract off $\\overline{ML}$ which has the same length as $\\overline{ZM}$ to determine that $\\overline{LB} = 59;38^p.$<\/p>\n<p>As we&#8217;ve seen, $\\overline{EL} = 2 \\cdot \\overline{DM} = 5;28^p.$<\/p>\n<p>This means we know two sides of $\\triangle ELB$, so we can find the remaining side:<\/p>\n<p>$$\\overline{EB} = \\sqrt{59;38^2 + 5;28^2} = 59;53^p$$<\/p>\n<p>although Ptolemy gets $59;52^p$ likely due to having computed with greater precision.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll now create a demi-degrees circle about this triangle in which the hypotenuse, $\\overline{EB} = 120^p$ and we&#8217;ll convert $\\overline{EL}$ into that context:<\/p>\n<p>$$\\frac{120^p}{59;53^p} = \\frac{\\overline{EL}}{5;28^p}$$<\/p>\n<p>$$\\overline{EL} = 10;57^p.$$<\/p>\n<p>Ptolemy comes up with $10;58^p.$<\/p>\n<p>We then find the corresponding arc, $arc \\; EL = 10;30\u00ba.$<\/p>\n<p>Thus, the angle opposite it on the demi-degrees circle, $\\angle EBL = 5;15\u00ba.$<\/p>\n<p>Next, recall that $\\angle GZB = 83;53\u00ba.$<\/p>\n<p>If we add these two, we get $\\angle BEG = 89;08\u00ba.$<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Furthermore, since the approximate longitude of the perigee, $G$, is $11\u00ba$ into Pisces, and the apparent longitude of the planet, as viewed along $\\overline{EK}$, was $15;45\u00ba$ into Gemini, $\\angle KEG = 94;45\u00ba.$<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We can then subtract $\\angle BEG$ from this to determine $\\angle KEB = 5;37\u00ba.$<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll now create a demi-degrees circle about $\\triangle BEN$ where the hypotenuse, $\\overline{EB} = 120^p$. In it, $arc \\; BN = 11;14\u00ba.$ As a quick note for later, this also means that the angle this arc subtends, $\\angle BEN = 5;37\u00ba.$<\/p>\n<p>We can then find the corresponding chord, $\\overline{BN} = 11;45^p$ although Ptolemy rounds down to $11;44^p$.<\/p>\n<p>This gets converted back to our context in which the diameter of the eccentre equals $120^p:$<\/p>\n<p>$$\\frac{59;52^p}{120^p} = \\frac{\\overline{BN}}{11;45^p}$$<\/p>\n<p>$$\\overline{BN} = 5;52^p.$$<\/p>\n<p>Ptolemy comes out a bit low at $5;50^p.$<\/p>\n<p>Next, we can state that $arc \\; HK = 41;18\u00ba$ as this is the distance we determined that Jupiter was about its epicycle from the apogee<span id='easy-footnote-3-4809' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2024\/08\/almagest-book-xi-determining-the-size-of-jupiters-epicycle\/#easy-footnote-bottom-3-4809' title='Recalling that apogee is taken from the view of the equant, or center of mean motion.'><sup>3<\/sup><\/a><\/span>. Thus, so is $\\angle HBK$.<\/p>\n<p>We also determined that $\\angle EBZ = 5;15\u00ba$ which we can subtract off of $\\angle HBK$ to determine $\\angle KB \\Theta = 36;03\u00ba.$<\/p>\n<p>Additionally, we showed that $\\angle \\Theta EK = 5;37\u00ba.$<\/p>\n<p>We can then subtract:<\/p>\n<p>$$\\angle BKN = \\angle KB \\Theta &#8211; \\angle \\Theta EK = 30;26\u00ba.$$<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll then create a demi-degrees context about $\\triangle BNK$ in which the hypotenuse, $\\overline{BK} = 120^p$. We can then state that $arc \\; BN = 60;52\u00ba$ and the corresponding chord, $\\overline{BN} = 60;47^p.$<\/p>\n<p>We can use this to convert $\\overline{BK}$, the radius of the epicycle, back to our context in which the diameter of the eccentres is $120^p$:<\/p>\n<p>$$\\frac{5;50^p}{60;47^p} = \\frac{\\overline{BK}}{120^p}$$<\/p>\n<p>$$\\overline{BK} = 11;31^p.$$<\/p>\n<p>Ptolemy rounds down to $11;30^p$.<\/p>\n<p>You may well note that I&#8217;ve called out a number of instances in which Ptolemy did a bit of rounding. Toomer notes that this has caused a moderate amount of accumulated error as a precise value during these calculations would have let to a result of the radius of the epicycle being $11;38^p.$ Toomer speculates that Ptolemy was likely aiming for a nice round number, as seems to be his preference<span id='easy-footnote-4-4809' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2024\/08\/almagest-book-xi-determining-the-size-of-jupiters-epicycle\/#easy-footnote-bottom-4-4809' title='See: His interesting roundings that &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2022\/09\/almagest-book-vii-on-the-rate-of-precession-from-other-greek-astronomers-observations\/&quot;&gt;led to the precession of the equinoxes being exactly $1\u00ba$ per century&lt;\/a&gt;.'><sup>4<\/sup><\/a><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>That concludes Chapter $2$!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Almagest-Progress-20240821-2.png?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4811\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Almagest-Progress-20240821-2.png?resize=300%2C131&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"131\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Almagest-Progress-20240821-2.png?resize=300%2C131&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Almagest-Progress-20240821-2.png?resize=1024%2C447&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Almagest-Progress-20240821-2.png?resize=768%2C335&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Almagest-Progress-20240821-2.png?resize=1536%2C671&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Almagest-Progress-20240821-2.png?w=1915&amp;ssl=1 1915w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Next, we&#8217;ll determine the size of Jupiter&#8217;s epicycle. 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