{"id":2507,"date":"2020-12-25T17:11:47","date_gmt":"2020-12-25T23:11:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/?p=2507"},"modified":"2020-12-25T17:11:47","modified_gmt":"2020-12-25T23:11:47","slug":"almagest-book-v-calculation-of-lunar-distance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2020\/12\/almagest-book-v-calculation-of-lunar-distance\/","title":{"rendered":"Almagest Book V: Calculation of Lunar Distance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Now that we&#8217;ve demonstrated a parallax of $1;07\u00ba$ for the moon, we can use that do determine a distance to the moon. As a forewarning, some of the math may seem suspect here, so I&#8217;ll do my best to explain it.<\/p>\n<p>To being, let&#8217;s start off with a new drawing:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/AlmagestFig5-10a-1.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2509\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/AlmagestFig5-10a-1.jpg?resize=288%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"288\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/AlmagestFig5-10a-1.jpg?resize=288%2C300&amp;ssl=1 288w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/AlmagestFig5-10a-1.jpg?resize=768%2C800&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/AlmagestFig5-10a-1.jpg?w=917&amp;ssl=1 917w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 288px) 100vw, 288px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>In this image, for the first time, we&#8217;re considering the earth as something larger than a point. As such, $circle \\; AB$ is the earth. Next, $circle \\; GD$ is the meridian at the distance of the moon<span id='easy-footnote-1-2507' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2020\/12\/almagest-book-v-calculation-of-lunar-distance\/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-2507' title='Although we don&amp;#8217;t normally think of it this way, the meridian is actually a &lt;em&gt;plane &lt;\/em&gt;which has on its surface, north, south, and the zenith. We typically only discuss it in terms of its intersection with the celestial sphere, but now we&amp;#8217;re also discussing the context of where it intersects the sphere of the moon.'><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span>, viewed side on, with $G$ as the direction to the zenith and $D$ as the moon. The outer circle, $circle \\; EZH \\Theta$ represents the celestial sphere. And that&#8217;s where things start getting funny because the celestial sphere is imagined as infinitely far away. Or, at least so far away that the size of the earth is negligible<span id='easy-footnote-2-2507' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2020\/12\/almagest-book-v-calculation-of-lunar-distance\/#easy-footnote-bottom-2-2507' title='As Ptolemy puts it, &amp;#8220;to which the earth bears the ratio of a point.&amp;#8221;'><sup>2<\/sup><\/a><\/span>. But obviously, if I drew it that way, we wouldn&#8217;t be able to observe anything else. So we&#8217;re going to have to do some flexible thinking when we consider this circle. On this circle, $E$ is the zenith, $H$ is the projection of the lunar position onto the celestial sphere if there were no parallax, and $\\Theta$ is the projection of the lunar position onto the celestial sphere from Alexandria. Next, $\\overline{AZ}$ is simply a line parallel to $\\overline{KH}$ but at Alexandria instead of the true center of all these circles, which would be $K$. We&#8217;ve also dropped a perpendicular from $A$ only $\\overline{KH}$.<\/p>\n<p>In the previous post, we calculated the true distance of the moon, $D$ from the zenith $G$ to be $49;48\u00ba$. Thus, $arc \\; GD = 49;48\u00ba$ as does the central angle it subtends, $\\angle{GKD}$.<\/p>\n<p>Now let&#8217;s consider the parallax. We said that the observed angle from the zenith at Alexandria, $\\angle{GAD} = 50;55\u00ba$. In addition, the parallax angle was $1;07\u00ba$ which is $\\angle{ADK}$ as well as its vertical angle, $\\angle{HD \\Theta}$ and the arc that subtends that angle on the celestial sphere, $arc \\; H \\Theta$.<\/p>\n<p>And here&#8217;s where the celestial sphere is going to start getting funny. Although it doesn&#8217;t look like it here, $arc \\; Z \\Theta \\approx arc \\; H \\Theta$. If you imagine shrinking the size of the Earth until it was imperceptibly small, point $A$ converges to point $K$, and $Z$ converges to $H$. However, the arc on the celestial sphere, $arc \\; H \\Theta$ would remain unchanged. This means that the apparent difference of those arcs in this drawing is really only due to the drawing itself.\u00a0This allows us to state that $\\angle{ZA \\Theta} = 1;07\u00ba$.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll set that aside and jump into a demi-degrees circle around $\\triangle{ADL}$. We previously stated that $\\angle{ADL} = 1;07\u00ba$ as well so the arc opposite in this circle will have twice its measure giving us, $arc \\; AL = 2;14\u00ba$. Taking its chord, we get $\\overline{AL} = 2;21^p$ in the context of this circle in which the hypotenuse, $\\overline{AD} = 120^p$<\/p>\n<p>Next, we&#8217;ll need to do a bit more fuzzy thinking. Again, consider zooming out until the earth becomes a single point. We already noted that $A$ converges with $K$, but so to do $L$ and $B$ converge. So in that respect, we can also state that $\\overline{LD} \\approx \\overline{AD} \\approx 120^p$.<\/p>\n<p>I should note that this is some\u00a0<em>really<\/em> fuzzy thinking here because considering these points to converge only works in the context of the celestial sphere. However, the triangle we&#8217;re considering right now doesn&#8217;t have any points on the celestial sphere. Rather, it only extends to the circle of the moon. Thus, Ptolemy&#8217;s logic here isn&#8217;t particularly sound<span id='easy-footnote-3-2507' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2020\/12\/almagest-book-v-calculation-of-lunar-distance\/#easy-footnote-bottom-3-2507' title='As I noted in &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/2020\/12\/almagest-book-v-lunar-parallax\/&quot;&gt;this post&lt;\/a&gt;, Neugebauer calls out the calculation of lunar parallax and distance as particularly poor. This seems like an excellent example of why.'><sup>3<\/sup><\/a><\/span>, as there will be a non-negligible difference between the length of these two lines. But where Ptolemy goes, so must we follow.<\/p>\n<p>Without really resolving much in that demi-degrees circle we were just looking at, Ptolemy now jumps into another one, this time about $circle \\; ALK$. In it, $\\angle{AKL} = 49;48\u00ba$ since it&#8217;s the same angle as $\\angle{GKD}$. Thus, the arc opposite it in this circle, $arc \\; AL$ will have a length of twice that, or $99;36\u00ba$. Its supplement, $arc \\; LK$ then will be $80;24\u00ba$. Finding the corresponding chords, we then have $\\overline{AL} = 91;39^p$ and $\\overline{LK} = 77;27^p$ in the context of this circle in which the hypotenuse $\\overline{AK} = 120^p$.<\/p>\n<p>At this point, we&#8217;d normally context switch back to the big picture but, as of yet, we don&#8217;t have the measure of any of these in any other context. So\u00a0we&#8217;ll make one up and define a new context in which the radius of the earth, $\\overline{AK}$ is our base unit. In other words, $\\overline{AK} = 1^p$. We can then use that to context switch this triangle to state that $\\overline{AL} = 0;46^p$ and $\\overline{KL} = 0;39^p$.<\/p>\n<p>Now we&#8217;ll return to the previous demi-degrees circle. In it, we stated that $\\overline{AL} = 2;21^p$ and $\\overline{LD} = 120^p$. Since we now have $\\overline{AL}$ in the context in which the radius of the earth is $1^p$, we can use that to context switch this triangle and determine $\\overline{AL} = 0;46^p$ and $\\overline{LD} = 39;06^p$.<\/p>\n<p>We can then add $\\overline{KL} + \\overline{LD} = 0;39^p + 39;06^p = 39;45^p$ which gives the distance to the moon as $39;45$ earth radii.<\/p>\n<p>However, that&#8217;s not a constant. The moon moves closer and further on the eccenter as well as on its epicycle. As such, that was only the distance at a specific point in time! We&#8217;ll need to do some more work to work out those various components, which I&#8217;ll save for the next post.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Almagest-Progress-20201225-2.png?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2512\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Almagest-Progress-20201225-2.png?resize=300%2C132&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"132\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Almagest-Progress-20201225-2.png?resize=300%2C132&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Almagest-Progress-20201225-2.png?resize=1024%2C451&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Almagest-Progress-20201225-2.png?resize=768%2C338&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Almagest-Progress-20201225-2.png?resize=1536%2C676&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Almagest-Progress-20201225-2.png?w=1904&amp;ssl=1 1904w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Gotta love the Christmas\/New Years bump!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now that we&#8217;ve demonstrated a parallax of $1;07\u00ba$ for the moon, we can use that do determine a distance to the moon. As a forewarning, some of the math may seem suspect here, so I&#8217;ll do my best to explain it. To being, let&#8217;s start off with a new drawing:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[24],"tags":[25,37,28,26,19,14],"class_list":["post-2507","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-almagest","tag-almagest","tag-celestial-sphere","tag-geometry","tag-mathematics","tag-moon","tag-ptolemy"],"acf":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9ZpvC-Er","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2507","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2507"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2507\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2513,"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2507\/revisions\/2513"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2507"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2507"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jonvoisey.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2507"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}