Almagest Book X: Position of Venus About the Epicycle on Oct 10/11 271 BCE

Continuing with our process of finding the position of Venus about the epicycle at two widely discrepant points in time, we’ll now look at one from Timocharis.

[2] From the ancient observations, we selected one which is recorded by Timocharis as follows. In the thirteenth year of Philadelphos, Mesore [XII] 17/18 in the Egyptian calendar [October 11/12 271 BCE], at the twelfth hour, Venus was seen to have exactly overtaken the star opposite Vindemiatrix. That is, the star which, in our descriptions, is the one following the star on the tip of the southern wing of Virgo, and which had a longitude of 814º in Virgo in the first year of Antoninus. Now, the year of the observation is the 476th from Nabonassar, while the first year of Antoninus is 884 [years] from Nabonassar; to the 408th years of the interval corresponds to a motion of the fixed stars and the apogees of about 4112º. Hence, it is clear that the longitude of Venus was 416º into Virgo, and the longitude of the perigee of its eccentre 201112º into Scorpio. And, here too, Venus was past its greatest elongation as morning star; for 4 days after the above observation, on Mesore 21/22, as one can deduce from what Timocharis says, its longitude was 856 in Virgo, according to our coordinates, and the mean position of the sun was 17;03º into Libra at the first observation and 20;59º in Libra at the next: this its elongation at the first observation comes to 42;53º and, at the next, 42;09º.

To determine the position about the epicycle, we’ll produce a diagram almost the same as the previous one, but flipped across the line of apsides and without one side of the epicycle crossing that line.

As with before, AE is the line of apsides1 again with A as the point 25º into Taurus (apogee) and E, the point 25º into Scorpio (perigee). Point B is the point about which the eccentre rotates and G its actual center. D is the observer on earth.

The epicycle is centered on Z with Venus at K, again, sometime after greatest elongation.

From B and D we extend BH and DΘ respectively, through Z. We’ll also create GZ and DK.

Again, we’ll drop perpendiculars from G and D onto BH at L and M respectively as well as from Z onto DK, perpendicular at N.

Let’s get started.

First, we’ll find EBZ which is the angle of the mean sun before the perigee. However, we must recall that this observation, as Ptolemy told us in his summary of it, was 408 years ago and thus, the line of apsides had progressed 4112º. Thus, E, at that time, was 20;55 into Scorpio instead of 25º. Therefore the difference between that and the position of the mean sun at that time (which Ptolemy gave us as 17;03º into Libra) is 33;52º.

We’ll then turn our attention to BGL creating a demi-degrees context about it. In that context, the hypotenuse, BG=120p. The arc opposite GBL, arcGL=67;44º and thus, the corresponding chord GL=66;52p.

Using either the Pythagorean theorem or some more angle/chord relationships, we can also determine that BL=99;38p.

But again, in the larger context for Venus’ model, we’ve determined that BG=1;15p which we can use to switch back to that context.

Doing so, I find that GL=0;42p and BL=1;02p.

Next, let’s take a look at ZGL. We just determined GL in this, and GZ=60p. Thus, we can use the Pythagorean theorem to determine ZL=59;59,45p which Ptolemy just rounds to 60 again.

Using the same reasoning as from the last post, we can state that BL=LM and that DM=2GL.

This allows us to subtract:

ZM=ZLLM=60p1;02p=58;58p

and

DM=1;24p.

This gives us two sides of ZDM allowing us to use the Pythagorean theorem to determine ZD=58;59p.

We’ll now create a demi-degrees circle about this triangle.

In it, the hypotenuse, ZD=120p which gives us our avenue for converting the rest of the triangle to this context. Specifically, DM=2;51p which we can then use to determine the corresponding arcDM=2;43º for which Ptolemy, evidently, rounded up again, getting 2;44º.

Thus, the opposing angle, MZD=1;22º2.

Next, we’ll add3:

EDZ=BZD+EBZ=1;22º+33;52º=35;14º.

Turning back to the observation, Ptolemy reported that it was 4;10º into Virgo, as observed from earth at the time of observation. This is 76;45º before the perigee4 which is represented by EDK.

We can then subtract EDZ from this to determine that ZDK=41;31º.

We’ll now set up a new demi-degrees context about DZN. In it, the hypotenuse, DZ=120p and arcZN=83;02º for which the corresponding chord, ZN=79;32p. Ptolemy again rounds up to 79;33p.

We can now convert back to the previous context.

Doing so, I find that ZN=39;06p. And again, Ptolemy has evidently rounded up to 39;07p5

Next, we’ll focus on ZKN, creating a demi-degrees circle about it. In this context, the hypotenuse, ZK=120p. However, this is the radius of the epicycle which we know to be 43;10p, allowing us to convert to this context.

Doing so, I find that ZN=108;45p. Looking up the corresponding chord, I find that arcZN=129;59º which Ptolemy rounds to 130º which makes the opposite angle, NKZ=65º.

This, then, gets added to ZDK (which we found to be 41;31º to determine ΘZK=106;31º.

To this we can add ΘZK (which is the vertical angle of MZD to determine HZK=107;53º. This is the angle of Venus before apogee. Taking it the other way around, we find that Venus was 252;07º after its last pass through the apogee, which is what we set about to determine.

With this result, and the one from Ptolemy’s time, we can then determine how far Venus advanced about the epicycle during the interval between the observations.

The interval between the two observations, Ptolemy tells us, was 409 Egyptian years and roughly 167 days.

If we look back at the chapter on periodic motions for the planets, we see that there are 5 full returns in anomaly every 8 years. Thus, there would have been 255 complete returns in that period.

That does leave some additional time on the table as that would only take us to 408 years, but Ptolemy states:

the remaining year plus the additional days do not complete the period of one revolution.

This is correct as a full return in anomaly occurs every 1.6 years which we’re not going to be able to get to with what was left on the table.

To this, we’ll add the amount in which the anomaly increased based on our two observations.

In the historic observation from Timocharis we explored in this post, Venus was 252;07º past apogee. In the observation from Ptolemy’s time, it was 230;32º past apogee, which means that Venus had advanced 338;25º in addition to the full revolutions in that time.

That’s a total advance 25,35,38;25º in a period of 41,30,52;00 days.

If we divide that out, I find it comes out to 0;36,59,25,49,08,51ºd.

This agrees with Ptolemy’s value in the mean motions table up to the third sexagesimal place.

Toomer notes this as well and considers one possible reason for why the values don’t match. Specifically, Ptolemy claims that the interval was an integer number of days. However, in the observation from his time, the observation was around 4:45am. For this observation, it was given as the “twelfth hour” which is, presumably, of the night, which would put this observation at 6:00am. This is a difference of over 114 hours or, if the equation of time is taken into consideration, 112 hours.

However, while taking this improves the value (with respect to the value Ptolemy reports in the mean motions table), it still doesn’t quite match. Thus, Ptolemy’s exact methods are unknown here.

In the next post, we’ll use this information to determine Venus’ epoch position which will complete the discussion of Venus for now6.



 

  1. Truncated of course.
  2. Ptolemy again continues his calculations in the demi-degrees context in which all angles are doubled.
  3. The proof for this can be found in the last post.
  4. Again, recalling that the perigee was 20;55 into Scorpio instead of 25º at the time of observation.
  5. Toomer, again, notes these rounding errors and states that the accumulated rounding error amounts to 0;04º for the final result.
  6. We still have to discuss the latitudinal motion of the planets, which Ptolemy will return to later.