Continuing with our process of finding the position of Venus about the epicycle at two widely discrepant points in time, we’ll now look at one from Timocharis.
[
] From the ancient observations, we selected one which is recorded by Timocharis as follows. In the thirteenth year of Philadelphos, Mesore [XII] in the Egyptian calendar [October BCE], at the twelfth hour, Venus was seen to have exactly overtaken the star opposite Vindemiatrix. That is, the star which, in our descriptions, is the one following the star on the tip of the southern wing of Virgo, and which had a longitude of in Virgo in the first year of Antoninus. Now, the year of the observation is the from Nabonassar, while the first year of Antoninus is [years] from Nabonassar; to the years of the interval corresponds to a motion of the fixed stars and the apogees of about . Hence, it is clear that the longitude of Venus was into Virgo, and the longitude of the perigee of its eccentre into Scorpio. And, here too, Venus was past its greatest elongation as morning star; for days after the above observation, on Mesore , as one can deduce from what Timocharis says, its longitude was in Virgo, according to our coordinates, and the mean position of the sun was into Libra at the first observation and in Libra at the next: this its elongation at the first observation comes to and, at the next, .
To determine the position about the epicycle, we’ll produce a diagram almost the same as the previous one, but flipped across the line of apsides and without one side of the epicycle crossing that line.
As with before,
The epicycle is centered on
From
Again, we’ll drop perpendiculars from
Let’s get started.
First, we’ll find
We’ll then turn our attention to
Using either the Pythagorean theorem or some more angle/chord relationships, we can also determine that
But again, in the larger context for Venus’ model, we’ve determined that
Doing so, I find that
Next, let’s take a look at
Using the same reasoning as from the last post, we can state that
This allows us to subtract:
and
This gives us two sides of
We’ll now create a demi-degrees circle about this triangle.
In it, the hypotenuse,
Thus, the opposing angle,
Next, we’ll add3:
Turning back to the observation, Ptolemy reported that it was
We can then subtract
We’ll now set up a new demi-degrees context about
We can now convert back to the previous context.
Doing so, I find that
Next, we’ll focus on
Doing so, I find that
This, then, gets added to
To this we can add
With this result, and the one from Ptolemy’s time, we can then determine how far Venus advanced about the epicycle during the interval between the observations.
The interval between the two observations, Ptolemy tells us, was
If we look back at the chapter on periodic motions for the planets, we see that there are
That does leave some additional time on the table as that would only take us to
the remaining year plus the additional days do not complete the period of one revolution.
This is correct as a full return in anomaly occurs every 1.6 years which we’re not going to be able to get to with what was left on the table.
To this, we’ll add the amount in which the anomaly increased based on our two observations.
In the historic observation from Timocharis we explored in this post, Venus was
That’s a total advance
If we divide that out, I find it comes out to
This agrees with Ptolemy’s value in the mean motions table up to the third sexagesimal place.
Toomer notes this as well and considers one possible reason for why the values don’t match. Specifically, Ptolemy claims that the interval was an integer number of days. However, in the observation from his time, the observation was around
However, while taking this improves the value (with respect to the value Ptolemy reports in the mean motions table), it still doesn’t quite match. Thus, Ptolemy’s exact methods are unknown here.
In the next post, we’ll use this information to determine Venus’ epoch position which will complete the discussion of Venus for now6.
- Truncated of course.
- Ptolemy again continues his calculations in the demi-degrees context in which all angles are doubled.
- The proof for this can be found in the last post.
- Again, recalling that the perigee was
into Scorpio instead of at the time of observation. - Toomer, again, notes these rounding errors and states that the accumulated rounding error amounts to
for the final result. - We still have to discuss the latitudinal motion of the planets, which Ptolemy will return to later.